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Monday, October 09, 2006

Masturbating During Ramadhan?

From the website of Sayyid Ali Khamenei, Iran's Supreme Leader (Hat Tip: Andrew Sullivan ):

To Masturbate While Fasting

Q: If somebody masturbates during the month of Ramadan but without any discharge, is his fasting invalidated?

A: if he do not intend masturbation and discharging semen and nothing is discharged, his fasting is correct even though he has done a ḥarām act. But, if he intends masturbation or he knows that he usually discharges semen by this process and semen really comes out, it is a ḥarām intentional breaking fasting.

14 comments:

Jon said...

"A: if he do not intend masturbation..."

How does one 'not intend' masturbation? Does one so happen to accidently find one masturbating eventhough one didn't intend it??

Gathara said...

I must say that stumped me as well. I also wondered about someone masturbating "but without any discharge"... thought that would be the whole purpose of the act.

Rista said...

You see? You see? God is eazee with us touching ourselves, it's just us humans who mess with our heaven. You guys clearly haven't explored the pleasures of self-denial at the last possible minute (tut tut):-)

Jon said...

If I remember rightly, the discharge is the whole purpose of the act from a nature point of view, but the reason we intend, or not intend as the case may be, is for the pleasure, i.e. climax.

Unfortunately, you can (usually) have one without the other unless you're female!

Jon said...

If I remember rightly, the discharge is the whole purpose of the act from a nature point of view, but the reason we intend, or not intend as the case may be, is for the pleasure, i.e. climax.

Unfortunately, you can't (usually) have one without the other unless you're female!

Rista said...

Jon dear... how would you know this about females? Own the equipment? If a female has an orgasm, she discharges, trust me, or better yet, check the next time you... ;-)

Jon said...

ok.... but it doesn't show so much!

m said...

LOL!! Ati did not intend?!!

That one has passed me by totally!!!

The.Hanyeé said...

Oops! Tripped, fell and hand landed on dick...totally not intentional!

cybersn00p said...

Guys, guys, guys... and ahem... ladies. It is totally possible to masturbate unintentionally.

Once I was riding in my high school bus staring at Fatma Rizi's boobs... bag on my lap... bumps give you a hard one and ... well... you know the rest.

Tell me if I intended to masturbate on the bus on my way home from school?

Anonymous said...

what that might also mean is a wet dream the way u guys are talking i'd say u guys never had one

WM said...

Oh dear! I bet this post is trending again this month hahaha

kibagendi said...

how can one masturbate without dischargeing? that beats logic. and can one masturbate unknowingly??? hell no. that is a well pre-meditated act. its a sin. haram

Al Muntasr said...

Quite Simple, some people have sexual dreams even during the dream and sometimes their hands go to their private parts, in this case they have masturbated without the intention. they may also wake up and find their hands in their pivate parts but have not yet discharged, in this case they continue their fast because the sleeping and insane person are not accountable for their acts, however if a person is fully awake then they have the intention, hand hence break their fasts because the first rule in Islam is that deeds are judged by the intention, not the action.